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Long time ago (somewhere around 2010-2011) members of the nix community decided to [set up a wiki]( https://web.archive.org/web/20111006031605/http://nixos.org/wiki/Main_Page ). Everything went well until people lost supposently interest in maintaining the wiki and the overall quality of the wiki began to lower because obsolete information was not pruned anymore.
Long time ago (somewhere around 2010-2011) members of the nix community decided to [set up a wiki]( https://web.archive.org/web/20111006031605/http://nixos.org/wiki/Main_Page ). Everything went well until people lost supposently interest in maintaining the wiki and the overall quality of the wiki began to lower because obsolete information was not pruned anymore.


On the 14th of november 2015 Rok Garbas gave the infamous talk [https://media.ccc.de/v/nixcon2015-3-MakeNixfriendlierforBeginners#video&t=1365 "Make Nix friendlier for Beginners"] which is for future generations only known as the "Kill the wiki" talk. In retrospective this talk led to making nix much more unfriendly and unapproachable for beginner than one could ever imagine. An [https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22599 EPIC mailing-list discussion] started 4 days later and some core developers seemed to agree that the nix* manuals are a better place to put documentation, others didn't.
On the 14th of november 2015 Rok Garbas gave the infamous talk [https://media.ccc.de/v/nixcon2015-3-MakeNixfriendlierforBeginners#video&t=1365 "Make Nix friendlier for Beginners"] which is for future generations only known as the "Kill the wiki" talk. This rekindled the discussion about the decaying state of the official wiki. An [https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22599 EPIC mailing-list discussion] started 4 days later and some core developers seemed to agree that the nix* manuals are a better place to put documentation, others didn't.


Spam bots took over as there was no adequate protection, people got more and more demotivated and the admins became lethargic towards the problems. Out of frustration Eelco announced the "Lockdown" of the wiki on the 29th of August 2016. On the 9th of February user copumpkin opened an issue with the [https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22599 Request to unlock the wiki], another epic discussion started with almost a hundred responses but nothing but bike shedding.
Spam bots took over as there was no adequate protection mechanisms for the wiki, people got more and more demotivated and the admins became lethargic towards the problem. Out of frustration Eelco announced the "Lockdown" of the wiki on the 29th of August 2016. On the 9th of February user copumpkin opened an issue with the [https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22599 Request to unlock the wiki], another epic discussion started with almost a hundred responses but no outcome how to proceed with the official wiki.


On May 9th the wiki was permanently disabled with a [https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/pull/30 PR by Graham Christensen] which was merged on the same day by Eelco. People started referencing to the [https://web.archive.org/web/20160829180446/https://nixos.org/wiki/Main_Page Archive.org mirror of the wiki].
On May 9th the wiki was permanently disabled with a [https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/pull/30 PR by Graham Christensen] which was merged on the same day by Eelco. People started referencing to the [https://web.archive.org/web/20160829180446/https://nixos.org/wiki/Main_Page Archive.org mirror of the wiki].


To fill the void in the community contributor Jörg Thalheim (Mic92) started the [https://github.com/nixos-users/wiki/wiki nixos-users wiki] on April 24th. He decided to just go for the github wiki functionality because nixpkgs also was maintained on github so everybody who needed access could directly edit the wiki. Only a very small number of selected wiki articles were transferred from the original wiki.
To fill the void in the community contributor Jörg Thalheim (Mic92) started the [https://github.com/nixos-users/wiki/wiki nixos-users wiki] on April 24th. He decided to just go for the github wiki functionality because nixpkgs also was maintained on github so everybody who needed access could directly edit the wiki. This instance is known as the "first unofficial" wiki. Only a very small number of selected wiki articles were transferred from the original wiki.


Not long after user Tristan Helmich (fadenb) started his own approach to resurrect the wiki by setting up a mediawiki on his own at https://nixos.wiki , mostly out of frustration of the bad UX of the github wiki. The wiki went online somewhere before May 2017 "on a lazy day at work" but forgot to tell anybody  about it, except for [https://twitter.com/fadenb/status/880045303403040768 "You can now log into https://nixos.wiki with your github account"]. Also the wiki is now protected by having Captchas enabled.
Not long after, user Tristan Helmich (fadenb) started his own approach to resurrect the wiki by setting up a mediawiki on his own at [https://nixos.wiki], mostly out of frustration of the bad UX of the github wiki (no table of contents, no search, etc ). The wiki went online somewhere before May 2017 "on a lazy day at work" but he forgot to tell anybody  about it. The only documented announcement is the twitter message [https://twitter.com/fadenb/status/880045303403040768 "You can now log into https://nixos.wiki with your github account"] with 8 likes and no retweets. The wiki now has captchas enabled.


[https://twitter.com/makefoo/status/899558842467569664 Discovering that project] on the 21st of August 2017, user Felix Richter (makefu) decided to just transfer all articles written for the nixos-user wiki into the more powerful platform.
[https://twitter.com/makefoo/status/899558842467569664 Discovering that project] on the 21st of August 2017, user Felix Richter (makefu) decided to just transfer all articles written for the nixos-user wiki into the more powerful platform.


With the migration of the old mediawiki to the new mediawiki the project went a full circle.
With the migration of the old mediawiki to the new mediawiki the project went a full circle.


* Discussion for reanimating the wiki
* Old nixos-users wiki




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[[Category:Discussion]]

Revision as of 13:18, 22 August 2017

The modern comedy of the NixOS wiki

Long time ago (somewhere around 2010-2011) members of the nix community decided to [set up a wiki]( https://web.archive.org/web/20111006031605/http://nixos.org/wiki/Main_Page ). Everything went well until people lost supposently interest in maintaining the wiki and the overall quality of the wiki began to lower because obsolete information was not pruned anymore.

On the 14th of november 2015 Rok Garbas gave the infamous talk "Make Nix friendlier for Beginners" which is for future generations only known as the "Kill the wiki" talk. This rekindled the discussion about the decaying state of the official wiki. An EPIC mailing-list discussion started 4 days later and some core developers seemed to agree that the nix* manuals are a better place to put documentation, others didn't.

Spam bots took over as there was no adequate protection mechanisms for the wiki, people got more and more demotivated and the admins became lethargic towards the problem. Out of frustration Eelco announced the "Lockdown" of the wiki on the 29th of August 2016. On the 9th of February user copumpkin opened an issue with the Request to unlock the wiki, another epic discussion started with almost a hundred responses but no outcome how to proceed with the official wiki.

On May 9th the wiki was permanently disabled with a PR by Graham Christensen which was merged on the same day by Eelco. People started referencing to the Archive.org mirror of the wiki.

To fill the void in the community contributor Jörg Thalheim (Mic92) started the nixos-users wiki on April 24th. He decided to just go for the github wiki functionality because nixpkgs also was maintained on github so everybody who needed access could directly edit the wiki. This instance is known as the "first unofficial" wiki. Only a very small number of selected wiki articles were transferred from the original wiki.

Not long after, user Tristan Helmich (fadenb) started his own approach to resurrect the wiki by setting up a mediawiki on his own at [1], mostly out of frustration of the bad UX of the github wiki (no table of contents, no search, etc ). The wiki went online somewhere before May 2017 "on a lazy day at work" but he forgot to tell anybody about it. The only documented announcement is the twitter message "You can now log into https://nixos.wiki with your github account" with 8 likes and no retweets. The wiki now has captchas enabled.

Discovering that project on the 21st of August 2017, user Felix Richter (makefu) decided to just transfer all articles written for the nixos-user wiki into the more powerful platform.

With the migration of the old mediawiki to the new mediawiki the project went a full circle.